The company IDC came out with an analytical report that maps the worldwide sales of computers for the third quarter. They are said to have sold 67,4 million units, which is a decrease of 0,9% compared to the same period last year. Over the course of the year, analysts had expected a larger decline, up to 3% due to an expected processor shortage.
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The company is also struggling with significant stagnation in sales Apple, which only managed to sell 4,7 million Macs last quarter. That's down 11,6% from Mac sales for the same period last year. Apple finished as the fifth most successful computer seller during this period. Lenovo had the best sales, followed by HP, Dell and Acer. It is also important to mention that the company is among the top five Apple the only one that did not show any year-on-year growth.
Analyst company Gartner also published its data on PC sales, whose values differ slightly from IDC. According to its data, 67,2 million PCs found new owners, which means a year-on-year increase of 0,1%. Gartner estimates that Apple sold 4,9 million Macs, down 8,5% from the same quarter last year.
This is what the successor to the legendary one might look like MacBooku Air, which should be introduced by the end of the month:
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It is important to say that these are only estimates. The official numbers will be announced Apple November 1. By then, the company is expected to hold a press conference to unveil the new 13" MacBook, Mac Mini and iMac, which should boost Mac sales again. Mac sales have not been good for the long term Apple just the most favorable. Last quarter of them Apple it sold just 3,47 million and recorded so worst quarterly sales in 7 years.
The development is not that big anymore and people are just fine with a machine a few years older 😉
... or people have already understood that these computers have already exceeded the reasonable limit of the performance/utility value/price ratio ;)
I guess so, in addition, you can throw a Hackintosh in addition to Win, Linux, etc. to a classically assembled and debugged PC.
I hope the new products will also have one of the most important Apple feature:
– non-replaceable and non-expandable RAM
– removable and non-expandable HDD
After all, everyone should think about what configuration they need and what they should use, a year from now Apple, well YUCK!!!, don't expand anything, throw it in the trash and HOORAY to the new MAC :-D
MACs are clearly not for you, judging by your blabbering! No one is forcing them on you, and if you don't have one, don't respond at all. You are a typical representative of the people who have maximal on crackle Windowsy!
older machines work without a problem, I don't see it on my late 2015 macbooku pro reason for an upgrade. Moreover, the news in the form of completely changed ports is not at all practical. So it is not surprising that people reach for a more practical and affordable option.
Certainly, ports are not a problem - everyone who does not have 60 and is not backward just wants to usb-c porty ☺️
ah, that's interesting. Do you use your Mac for anything other than browsing the web?
That's pretty stupid. I also have late 2015 macbook pro and I usually connect two monitors (HDMI and DisplayPort), a decent USB keyboard and occasionally other USB accessories to it. Len usb-c portI would like two things.
Anyone here dealing with ports? Wtf, why should USB-C bother me? I do everything via WiFi and at home I have everything on USB-C too, so wtf? Does anyone mind? A problem with the purchase of a transition card for 2 to ntb for 000? Don't buy it if you don't have kids
Well, not everyone is willing to change everything on their computer every few years. I have a lot of Thunderbolt 2 accessories (drives, dock, Blackmagic video card…), so USB-C is useless to me. The new MBP has nothing to offer me, the performance increase is not that dramatic, but the price is. The touchbar is useless in the end, big trackpad OK, I could get used to that one. The keyboard is terrible. I would miss all the ports except the SD reader. After so many years, I can't imagine a notebook without MagSafe. I'm already in the grip of adapters or external cards (TB – gbit ethernet, TB – FireWire 800) and USB-C would make everything even more complicated for me. If someone is starting "with a clean slate", i.e. building everything from scratch, USB-C is probably fine, but for others it's useless.
So it's a crime to shoot you on the spot, what do you even dare to do, use an old MAC!!!!
/that was ironic – I have to write it here on the website so that i Apple users understood :-)/
That's what a new MAC wants every year and a bunch of stuff to go with it, or dock and a bunch of cables :-)
So that it can be used at least a little :-D
But yes, unfortunately also with NB WindowsWhat a mess this is, pitifully few ports, so you have to have a bunch of cables on your desk, shit on design and cleanliness, right?
But the Ipotentator will tell you because he is not over 60 :-D He is already a big boy and even chases him, here in the discussions :-DU young fawns :-D
Almost everyone wants a MAC, but almost no one has one. Apple keeps raising prices. Models that were once at a playable price compared to the competition (e.g. retina 13) are now cut to the bone (2 usb ports, one of which is the power supply), so every professional thinks twice about buying them. And the price is still the same. And top models (retina with touch bar) are incredibly expensive.
Very often it is rather because for many people these computers do not offer extreme added value for their extreme price. It's just simple math.
I guess. Why should I throw for a MAC, the only reason, compared to the same configuration with Win.? Ah, I guess the logo on the back so that everyone can tell immediately what a pimp and rich man I am when I have a mac. NO! I say NO APPLE MAC!
You'll probably be surprised, I like it, but I don't want it, but nobody here will ever take it, their sheep heads will never be able to handle it :-)
I would never want a Mac. There is no single rational reason.
So why do you go to sites aimed at Apple and you still have a compulsive need to tell everyone that you don't want a Mac?
Macbook pro early 2011 with SSD sleeps like new. I changed his battery yesterday and we're moving on 👍
And by the way, a person would buy a new one, for just 15 cents. Well, those prices are scary...
In service? How much € in total?
I changed everything myself, the instructions are on the ifixit website
in the service they wanted €200 just to replace the battery and I changed it myself in 10 minutes and the battery cost me €80. also new frames, I replaced the drive with another HDD, and now I have an external drive.
Well, my Toshiba Tecra year 2002 sleeps like clockwork ;)
Well, my early 2011 got rid of it a month ago thanks to the graphics chip. Does anyone want the rest for €200? :))
Well, I read on the macforum that for 4 t. one skilled repairman will perform the exchange. Look there.
Apple he doesn't even want a significant increase, but he will go the way of the existing market share and higher margins (and profit) or he will start suffocating it with EU fines and buzzing like Google buzzes
I would also like to buy a Mac.. but the prices are absurd.. Targeted at people who have it as their primary work tool and will be able to recoup the purchase price on it..
Apple it is no longer aimed at people who have it as a primary work tool, but at people who simply have it. I work in Germany in the field of photo/video/graphics and a lot of people apple leave because of price/performance
I'm often in Germany on a project now and managerI have three-dimensional views. macbooky hung with reductions like a Christmas tree, and we programmers love old machines until 2015 and think about whether the next machine will be a Dell or a Lenovo
exactly :)
WENCA: exactly hits the mark, "macies hung like trees"
So Lenovo is a great choice, the convertible pieces have something in them, but so do the carbon ones! But dell isn't a bad choice either, I probably wouldn't use another...
Given the prices of the MBP 2018, this is not surprising, and an old MBA with an x-year outdated processor (there will be an upgrade this year, so I'm curious).
Lowering MBP prices by 5-10% of sales would initially go up.
I would rather see it at 15% - it would be an ideal quality / price ratio for me and I am among the first in line.
Yes, but I don't think that's realistic anymore. I'm still thinking about MBP 2k18 with i7 and 16GB ram, but 63k is simply an overpriced price tag, if it's 50-55k then it can be considered more. And as for MBP 2k17, it's literally a tragedy.
I don't mind the price of around 90 thousand, but that one macbook It's not a machine for professionals. Tell me, which professional can afford to wait a week before their computer is up and running due to some service problem. I can whistle on old Macs the next day.
I would be interested, but when a 13″ model costs 40-60 thousand and a 15″ model costs over 70 thousand, then most people will buy either an older model or a PC with Windows for 30 and "somehow it will last".. I'm not saying that I'm in a bad situation financially, but I value money and here it seems overkill.
But come on, why should they "endure somehow", on the contrary, they will find that it works just as well and they will be happy that they saved, they have enough ports, they can upgrade in the future, etc.
Macs went up mainly because sales are falling, so they milk more customers, they see it as a trend, so they are upset that it costs 90K, mainly because they start the browser uuuuuuuu
here they are :-D
I don't find the Touch Bar that useful, except perhaps Touch ID. New MacBooky do not only carry the old familiar "Apple-tax", are overpriced. My 15 inch Mac from 2012 cost around 60-70 thousand, for that price I have 512GB of storage, 2 USB ports, HDMI, 2 Thunderbolt ports, SD card reader and MagSafe. I deliberately waited until the upgrade Apple he'll come up with something innovative, because all the generations in between seemed the same to me, but I probably won't. In terms of performance, upgrading to a new Mac would probably be worth it, but I definitely don't count on it because of the price.
I was thinking about a Mac, mainly because of the connectivity with iPhone, but the form factor of Mac Books doesn't suit me. I bought a convertible DELL XPS (also for 70 thousand) and I will never go back to a classic laptop. The touch screen is very addictive, the keyboard facing down is the perfect stand when I'm lying down and is so much more comfortable than a tablet (I don't have to hold the computer in my hand at all, nor have my knees raised). When I work at a desk, I flip it back to laptop mode or connect an external keyboard and mouse, put the computer with the keyboard down on a raised pad, tilt the display towards me as I need and don't have to slouch. Just those Windows they annoy me However, I spend most of my time in apps, so it's okay. If you are making a decision, take a look at YouTube for rewinding laptops.
I hope so Apple smarten up and make a touch scrolling notebook. This would increase his sales, because whoever tries the flexibility of scrolling does not want to go back to a classic laptop and will bite even those windows.
Which specific model is it? And what processor?
I have a Dell XPS 15 (9575) TN-9575-N2-712S model, Intel Core i7-8705G processor, 4K resolution. I originally wanted FullHD because of better battery life, but 4K has a wider color space and, most importantly, I can afford smaller letters, which is useful when I put my computer higher and have the monitor closer to my eyes. Battery life is only 4-6 hours.
If you don't necessarily need a new laptop for work, like I did, I would wait to make a choice. Usable flip laptops are just starting out (they were slow hams before that) and the price will go down. And maybe he will come up with something too Apple, although now he claims that he never did. But he also said the same about Intel processors and the pen. :-) However, I am so excited about this form factor that it seems to me to be the only reasonable choice for the future. It can be used as a laptop and as a tablet, and due to the tilting it is better than a tablet. The only disadvantage compared to a tablet is that you cannot walk around with a folding computer and hold it in one hand and, for example, give a lecture. The folding structure is heavy and nestcapable.
Thanks for the comprehensive info, I'm getting more and more interested in the XPS 15.
I currently have a working MBA 2017, I expect that Apple she did an update in October and will be there forone4 cores coffee lake. So I'm waiting to see what comes out of it.
If you want XPS, without overclocking, the 9570 is stronger and more equipped, and the 9575 is weaker with overclocking. You can also buy last year's versions 9560 and 9565. Even if you buy a weaker battery, you can put two M2 drives in there and either a classic SSD or a large disk drive, which is fine. macbookIt's not working anymore.
Not interested in macs? In the first quarter of 2009, 600 thousand Macs were sold, today it is 4,7 million. And we are at a time when a large part of the computer market has been taken over by mobile devices. Apple will not discount computers at present, there is no reason to do so. On the one hand, they are interested in innovation, and then the year-on-year losses will catch up with other divisions.
Tvl von compares slowly ten year old sales. 😂😂😂😂😂
Little innovation, high price...
there are still many errors, especially SW
Below average HW for above average prices. Increasingly high quality. And then does anyone wonder? Just compare DELL equipment with Apple and suddenly we have an awful lot of music for much less money. Not to mention the 3y NBD service, what does Dell have!!!
If the price were a quarter less... let the 128GB storage and €1500 be angry... well, shock...
A saturated market?
componeNo, no. Yes, yes. Apple Macy's is killing with exorbitant prices.
If it were cheaper, I think everyone would just go for it.
it could be cheaper only shareholders are hungry for profits
Wake up from your wet dream already. There are better and comparable in quality, if not better brands! Lenovo and Dell, and if you try the convertible, you'll never want the classic again! Apple he overslept!
And you are some kind of paid monkey? With every post you have to express your opinions that are against Applu, even though you don't have a single long-term experience. Rather, you wake up...
I have no idea what is hidden under the word "convertibility".
I would also buy a new Mack, but why the hell if the old one pedals like clockwork?
I used to have a Vaio, I had to change it every year, max two. I've had my Mack for 5 years now and there's been no problem. I'd be quite happy to buy a new machine, but I always get stuck on something.
I have it from 2009 and everything works like clockwork, the ports are already a USB2.0 problem, but I'm going to buy new ones anyway, so I'll increase the sale by 1 :) ;)
Many people cry over the price. But the price is high only for the Czech Republic or the EU. The greed of officials is notonečná. If you look at the US prices at today's dollar exchange rate, you are really more than 20000,- for a 15″ MecBook Pro lower. That is simply terrible. Our purchasing power is also dismal within the EU.
If they were normal keyboards like the older models, it would be fine. And not the ones from 2016 that get stuck and the warranty is not recognized! Those Butterfly keyboards are worth the fart
And if only MagSafe and thunderbolt 2 and HDMI and classic USB remained... :D Those keyboards are terrible, that's unfortunately true.
In Jobs' time, innovation led, which of course went hand in hand with price. Now that direct relationship is quite unbalanced and development is suffering. I understand uniqueness and exclusivity AppBut lately it's gone way over the line and a precision product is becoming a posing product.
Honza Diblíček 🙈🙈
I can only confirm, I only bought 29 and 1 for the company Windows simply because windows it's terribly reliable for companies 😂... this opens up the reason: companies still mainly buy Windows because it pays off financially for them. And from a gaming perspective, it's on the house? Well, if there's the Gforce Now service, I don't need it EUROCOOM for half a mega 😂
I got it Mac mini 2012, 16GB, SSD. Everything works without problems. I was just looking for a new NTB for my girlfriend. Macbook I rejected because of my size, Air is an old excavation. 13 inch MacBook pro is from 40 upwards. 128GB is not enough, so at least 256GB. There we are at 45 thousand. When I compared it with HP, everything was half as much with HP. 8GB RAM, fast SSD disk, maybe even 512GB, lots of ports. Considering that my girlfriend mainly works in MSO, it looks like I will go for HP. With the 22 thousand saved, she can buy a new one iPad Pro. Don't get mad at me, but those prices are really a bit out of line. For professionals who make a living from graphics or programming, it's OK and often the only option, but for a normal user, it's really more of a matter of the heart. It can't be defended with reason.
It is NOT OK for professionals who make a living from graphics or programming, programmers prefer Linux - Lenovo, therefore Dell, or HP.... Graphics people almost also reach for something better than MB! You would be surprised!!!!
I will respond to your nonsense again... I have been in the field of graphics and industrial design for many years and the vast majority really use Macs. Given the level of expression and your overall knowledge, I'm not even surprised that you don't know what it looks like in reality, because you're not really close to either field.
If he really needs it Office, it probably doesn't matter. And Mac Mini late 2012 is still unbeaten mini :-) Those prices are way out of line. If the base 15″ MBP was, say, around 50-55 thousand, I think it would sell twice as well, so they would make a profit in the end. But for 74? Sorry, but I just won't give it away on principle.
Someone has already mentioned here that Macs do not need to be upgraded every six months or a year. For some, it serves for several more years without intervention. They are reliable, tuned, etc. But if someone thinks that they will save some crazy money on a custom made PC, they are mistaken. Try to build a PC with the same compsonents as used in the Mac, add to that the price of the 5K display, the peripherals, and of course the price of the operating system, the package office etc.. and find out that you spent a whopping 100 on the PC, max 200 EUR. And that at the price of an untuned WIN system instead of a wonderful ALLinONE compact machine? Thank you. The only problem I see is the absence of official eGPU support for Nvidia GPUs, which is still solved with a functional script. In the company, we have both PCs and iMacs Pro, which tear PCs to pieces. MAC expensive compared to PC is a 300x debunked myth. Few people look at the matter objectively. Of course, if someone wants to build the cheapest alternative. But that's not what it's about, of course... If one year the MACmy market goes down, other years it rises again...
Well, I still have an old HP 6730s. I don't even know how long I've had it. It originally had Vista on it. I got it for free when my sister wanted to throw it away because Vista would run for almost 5 minutes. I installed Linux on it. And I've been using it for I don't know how long. About 2 years ago I bought a new battery for it at Avacom. It has an SSD. Libre office I start faster on it than on that one. Mac mini. Internet and LO fine. The battery lasts 4 hours. They can withstand other notes than just from Apple
You are completely wrong. 😂😂😂 What are you riding?
I tried and got about the same money, if not more, but without MACOS.
CRAP!!!! PC is really cheaper, wake up! For the same money, just with 2x better equipment, no, and in addition with Win. :-D
the commercial may not be right, I have a mac air since 2016 and I'm quite poor, the hw is better, I've had my mother's hp repaired twice already, windowsIn short, they like reboots and reinstalls
In my opinion, everyone has .Mac what I see in people, so there is no need to change to a new one if it works 😉
I've had 3 different Macs: iMac 2012, Macbook Air 2014 and now I have
i have Macbook Pro 2017 with Touch Bar and I bought it (on bazos.cz) for the price it cost at the time Macbook Pro 2017 without Touch Bar. Otherwise I would go for the version without Touch Bar.
Each of those machines was great at the time, long-lasting and well-made. excelents. I had only one problem with the iMac, and that was that it had a regular HDD, it just wanted an SSD. That's basically the biggest drawback of the iMac right now, that if you don't buy a custom version, but just want to start, there's an HDD.
U Airthere was a problem later that it lacked retina and was unable to connect to a 4k monitor. And the 256 GB version costs APPLE.CZ 36 CZK, so it's not exactly the cheapest either, unless you buy it in a sale and the 990 GB version.
So if you want a laptop and a decent machine for work that you can connect to a 4k monitor, you have to go to Macbook Pro. Macbook 12 only 1 USB-C and somewhat weaker performance.
Macbook Pro I've been using it for over a year and I'm satisfied.
Pros: USB-C, Retina Display, overall build quality, (mostly hated) keyboard, Force Touch
Cons: The Touch Bar is an element that, in addition to Touch Id I don't use it much. I'd rather pay extra for more RAM and do without it. Price of the base model 13” with Touch Bar (it would need at least 16 GB as a base)
Decline in demand for Macbooku is caused due to the following reasons:
1) people don't have to change so often (quality)
2) content consumers are switching to iPads and iPhone
3) 3/4 portfolios have DON'T BUY IT on mac.buyersguide. Apple should just update more often. People are just waiting for what Apple will still show this year, because they don't want to buy PRO with Touchbar and the version without Touchbar has not been updated (no one wants to buy the version from 2018/2017 at the end of 6.
I wish for myself Apple this year Macbook 12 to Macbook Air united and made greater variantu in design Macbook 12.
Maybe something like this:
Macbook 12 128GB – 999 Euro
MacBook 13 128GB + Touch ID - 1099 Euro (2 USB-C)
This machine would then make much more sense for people who want to work on it and don't want to buy a PROcko with Touch Bar.
I would rather buy it myself MacBook 13 and paid extra for a better processor and RAM than buying the basic one Macbook Pro for 55990 CZK.
And they could also introduce some Macbook (Pro) NextGen with OLED display in style iPhone X has Face ID, but it's probably too early. They're saving that for later (at least I hope).
I have a 2014 and I would not change to the new version. It only has USB and you have to buy it docky etc and the keyboard is shaking
So that you all don't screw up with the retinas and 4K here! there is nothing extra about it! High resolution is not just the domain of MACs….
I really can't make you, heh. I can't forgive myself for this anymore. You're the only one here screaming into the dark and being shit. Because you're just babbling without any solid argument. It's starting to look more like envy than trolling.
I had a mcb pro 13″ 2016, I have a mcb pro 15″ 2017 and was looking at the 2018 models.
As a user, I see absolutely no difference in them, except for the price. It would need some innovation here and there if it's going to come out this quickly.
I have MacBook Pro early 2008 2.5Ghz and that's enough!